My Clickbank Business & Why you should NOT buy it.
August 23, 2009 by Big Internet Marketing
Filed under General
My Clickbank Business? Not so long ago, just like all other advanced marketers out there, I received a joint venture invitation from Andrew X and Steven Lee Jones about their new upcoming product called “My Clickbank Business”.
Andrew X and Steven Lee Jones are the same people who have created other products like Niche Socializer, Google Ambush and Google Massacre…
When a product seems to be alright to recommend to people, I would not mind promoting it on my blogs since it could help my readership and, while at it, make some commissions too. That is what internet marketing is about, right?
However, the product I promote should have quality in all regards.
Looking back at what Steven and Andrew have launched before this myclickbankbusiness product is what made me think twice before promoting them again.
First of all, I received some very disturbing comments on a post I did about Niche Socializer.
Read more about REAL Consumer reports about Niche Socializer here and here and, prepare to be shocked.
Then, I had a look at all of the sales I personally made while promoting their previous products…
ALL people had refunded. ALL of them. What does that say? Right, something is fishy..
So, after all that, I decided to send them an email requesting to review My Clickbankbusiness prior to promoting it this time around.
The mail I send:
Hi guys,
yes, i do have a question.
would you have me review the whole program before i promote it? i have received many, many bad feedback from for instance niche socializer… bad product, worse customer service etc. etc. not to be a prick… but, for me to promote this i would like to know more about what i am promoting this time.
thanks,walt
Nothing wrong with that, right? And, I got an answer too:
Hi Walt,
Thanks for the email.
Just so I know, when you say “many bad feedback” what do you mean?
You had 2 customers yourself… so Im just wondering who complained to you about Niche Socializer. Just both of those?
It’s just we’ve had JV partners with many many more customers and did not hear any complaints.
We had full time support teams working, and still do. We reply to tickets within 24 hours. We offer dedicated technical support free of charge too.
And to be honest, I would not trust any one that said NS is a bad product. The person that said that must have missed the 30 hours of videos in the members area and not have bothered using their 3 licenses.
But yes, I realize, irrespective of the product, you can never please everyone… especially the tyre kickers in this niche
We do try our best though.
I will see what I can do about the review copy for you.
Cheers,
Andrew
Thanks Andrew for trying to make someone feel as small as a pea. But, besides that, since that does not bother me, I was wondering why it was I did not get a review copy to actually review it prior to promoting it.
I send this mail back:
Hi,
besides the ‘two’ customers.. I run a few blogs…
There was a discussion going on about it.
I am well aware of the kickers.
But also recognize real complaints.
I have done promotions before from you, resulting in more than just two… and, all of them…. refunded.
It is ok if you do not want to give me a review copy.
Never mind.
Thanks,
Walter
On which I got an answer yet again:
Hi Walter,
Sorry, I was curious and always appreciate feedback, good or bad. So thanks!
I will tell you why I’m a little surprised.
Our refund rate was the lowest I have ever heard of for a high ticket launch in the IM niche.
It seriously was very low, and comparable to the refund rate of some of the top $77 IM products on Clickbank. Well, if all your buyers refund, including those that bought our previous products too, it may not be best for your time to promote. Again, just being honest and looking out for your time. I really really encourage you to sign up for a membership to ww.GoogleAmbush.com and take a look at the quality of stuff we release. This was our previous product to NS. You can get a 7 day trial for $5 and then request a cancelation/refund to CB before those days are over. Also, www.GoogleMassacre.com is a phenomenal product, and is a PPC thesis. Again, this product came before Google Ambush.
Let me know what you think if you do take a look.
Best wishes,
Andrew
Funny… Since first of all, these where the products I noticed that ALL my customers had returned and refunded. A few emails later to those customers I learned that it was due to bad customer service and an ocean full of other reasons as to why they refunded…
And, funny since I was a JV partner on those products and actually received access to those products from the creators themselves…
I send Andrew this mail, and it was the last that was mentioned about it. I did not receive any more mails from them…
Hi Andrew,
That is so kind of you.
Where it not that I AM a member on ambush and that I have gotten Massacre from you centuries before now. (I got these being a JV partner) I guess, being a JV partner means nothing more nowadays than being a simple affiliate number, ey? I must have just gotten unlucky with your launches that I referred only the refunding peeps to buy. Anyways, as said… never mind.
Walt
What does this all have to do with not buying My Clickbank Business?
If you are really interested in all of that, I advise you to visit the Warrior Internet Marketing Forum and read first hand from users what they think about My Clickbank Business.
A little searching on this forum will teach you that Niche Socializer DID indeed have high refund rates, and that it was in fact pirated, or stolen rather, from php.fox.
Allow me to quote a few comments about My Clickbank Business and, about the way business is done…
Re: MyClickbankBusiness.com
* – You’re going to get the same landing pages, sales copy, content, auto responder series, free report, etc as hundreds of other affiliates. Google will most likely hate these websites when they hit the web. Do you really want to compete with hundreds of other affiliates who have the SAME websites?
* – I’ve bought it and so far I can’t get hold of any support. I think they need a forum. Current all I have is an email address and a message saying they’ll get back in 24hrs.
* – i to had bought myclickbankbusiness and i have sent them two email and its now 48hours but no reply. i too have no other contact of them.
* – Unfortunately, I simply wanted to accelerate my CPA marketing efforts and did actually spend the $497 at myclickbankbusiness.com based on the recommendation of some “super” affiliates. As mentioned by someone else too, I got to the point of the MCB team actually loading two sites for me on dedicated servers, but failed to provide me with FTP access to those servers. The two sites are both live and useless at the moment. It has now been 2 days since any e-mail reply or support activity from MCB. Either they failed miserably at launch, or they took the money and ran. Either way, it’s an example of what NOT to do in a launch. Also note that the UK-based payment processing converts $497 to pounds or euros resulting in a USD$512 charge. Nice.
* – I have heard NOTHING…. Nothing has been configured on my server… I have written three very polite emails to their support department and have had no answer at all…
And, this is just a cut out of the big pie.
If you want some good feedback on the My Clickbank Business I advise you read this.
It is funny to see that the post starts with:
Hi folks,
Just got email from MyClickBankBusiness.com
Be alerted – the same folks behind NicheSocializer.
Seriously, do not buy My Clickbank Business.
Oh, and then you wonder as to why other gurus and internet marketers DO promote it? They simply do not give a flying hoot. They see and smell money. They get invited in the JV promotion, receive the promo emails, hit send to their lists and generate thousands of dollars in commissions within days…
In this internet marketing game, there are two teams. The team of the gurus, and the team of the customers. Frankly, most of you are in the team of the customers. You guys pay, while the other team, the gurus, make money together over your backs. Team 1 wins ALWAYS, team 2 PAYS always.
Pretty sick.
PS: If you wanted to really learn how to become a successful internet marketer, I suggest you check out the Howies Apprentice 4 Program, or await the launch of Commission Bueprint 2.0 which both have PROVEN to be great value. And, I mean in fantastic results from real users of the above two programs.
